Okay, we had these old lamps, falling appart and oxidized like you can't believe. So, on one fine garbage collection day, I passed 4 lamps in someone's pile. I checked them out. They were every bit as oxidzed as mine, but, in much better shape otherwise. So, I plucked them up and have been waiting for the perfect time to clean them up and get them installed. Well, guess what... with Grammy and Papa Mitchell here, the time arrived:-) The result is awsome. Thanks Papa!!!